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    • #7422
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Commanders,

      I have an idea, now bear with me, I’m sober so this may actually make sense….

      Angeli Imperial Nights

      I’m thinking Monday and Wednesday nights(as an example), ALL Commanders complete missions, trade, bounties etc for AIE in our systems.  The reasons for this are:

      • Lots of CMDRs in the same space
      • Benefits the expansion of Angeli Systems
      • Lots of people on TeamSpeak
      • Alcohol 🙂
      • Bulletin Board missions may be run by more than one CMDR as they duplicate
      • Fun, hilarity and general shenanigans

      The rest of the week would stay as normal (do whatever the hell you want), but for just those two nights it’s almost like a ‘get together’ and is a massive boost for us.

      Bounties could be as simple as everyone going to a RES and smashing it, then cashing in at their relevant system.

      Traders could run with escorts for trade dividends (suitable for newee members with not much money)

      Mission runners could run together as the missions will be there for all CMDRS.

      Thoughts?

    • #7427
      AvatarSketchy
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      I like. See you in space, gentlemen, and others of good, courteous conduct.

    • #7430
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Indeed.
      Monday and Wednesday’s shall be evenings where we show the rest of the galaxy what model citizens we are.

    • #7440
      AvatarMasterandpuppet
      Participant
      Foederati
      Rank: Principes

      Some organised chaos sounds good to me. One question though – what timezone do most members live in?

    • #7443
      AvatarHazara
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Triarii

      I’m a little fuzzy about that, fri sat suits me better for angeli “black ops” missions…

    • #7465
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      These aren’t black ops missions.  Monday and Wednesday nights are for ‘get your arse back to AIE and help out’ nights

      Bulletin Board Missions
      Trade
      Bounty collection etc

    • #7467
      AvatarTaragocia
      Participant
      Principes
      Rank: Triarii

      Sorry, love to come but I am a night shift worker, I would be home at 1am AEST.

      However I can contribute when Haz wants a silly buggers thing on a weekend, He only need to name the late hour

    • #7471
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      One of the reasons I want to start these, is because, well, let me put it this way;

      I work Wangal every day, give or take the odd excursion.  I deliberately didn’t do anything over the weekend to see what the influence change would be.  I also need to add that @XSannz is unable to play at the moment, and I know he contributes too.

      We lost 3.5% influence, that can only mean one thing.  Nobody does anything for Wangal.  I know I’ve jumped up and down on this before, and it’s a bit of a bug bear for me.  I get that this is a game and is fun, but at the same time people joined this group with the knowledge that this is what we do.  Except we’re not.  Very few of us are.

      I want to stop short of saying if you’re not going to help, leave.  But by buggery, I tell you, I’m getting close.  Teamspeak is always deserted, hardly anybody pushes our faction.  My dummy spits are getting more and more frequent.

      I’m constantly trying to come up with ways to get people involved, everybody jumps up and goes “Oh yeah, that’s awesome I’m in!”  Then nobody shows up.  I’m sure you can imagine my frustration.  Ten people yell “let’s do it!”  The same 3 people turn up.  You know who you are.

      I did 3 missions last night, it took 30 minutes.  We have, to my knowledge, about 10 active members at the moment, if everybody spent 30 minutes every second night doing some missions, we’d be flying along.

      Help me out here before I launch my largest teddy bear from the cot and scream my best Cartman “Screw you guys, I’m going home!”

       

    • #7472
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      Sorry guys I’m letting the team down at the moment, still a few days away from flying which sucks ad I just got lent a dk2 again…

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7473
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Mate, you have an excuse.  Don’t apologise.

    • #7474
      AvatarSketchy
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      This clan was started by you Morgs. I think it should be exactly as you want it to be, and heading in the direction you want, with like minded people. I think that is fair.
      I cannot commit to that. I play, because it is a break from reality, and I want to do whatever I feel like doing at the time. I am not a like-minded person 🙁

      I’ll gracefully bow out now, before it is a bigger issue in 6 months. Absolutely keen to wing up and hang with anyone if you’ll still have me, and if it is okay to still use the TS server, I like talking shite with you all, however I appreciate it is an AI server.

      I spend enough time in ED to be doing more for Wangal than I am. I have a different view of the game unfortunately.

      Much love still 🙂

    • #7475
      AvatarMasterandpuppet
      Participant
      Foederati
      Rank: Principes

      When my shifts allow I will be there. That won’t be as much as I would like but I will try.

      Although I have spent some time running missions I have been somewhat addicted to LR smuggling to develop my account but since I have now bought my conda (and a Python and FDL) I will be finding more time to spend on other activities in the coming weeks. That is the principle reason for having joined this group a few weeks back and I intend on honouring that committment.

      However, words are words, I will catch you online and if I don’t, I’ll be sure to do some more missions 🙂

    • #7477
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      This clan was started by you Morgs. I think it should be exactly as you want it to be, and heading in the direction you want, with like minded people. I think that is fair. I cannot commit to that. I play, because it is a break from reality, and I want to do whatever I feel like doing at the time. I am not a like-minded person :( I’ll gracefully bow out now, before it is a bigger issue in 6 months. Absolutely keen to wing up and hang with anyone if you’ll still have me, and if it is okay to still use the TS server, I like talking shite with you all, however I appreciate it is an AI server. I spend enough time in ED to be doing more for Wangal than I am. I have a different view of the game unfortunately. Much love still :)

      I appreciate you being up front with me, I really do.  I’m not asking for 24/7 AIE, I pretty much do that because, as you say, it’s my baby.  If we could at least do the Monday and Wednesday nights, that still leave 5 nights for everybody to do what they want.

      Or if people at least did one night a week or a couple of missions a night, anything to help I’d be happy.

      I know you go off shooting, but if you still cash in bounties at AIE, that works.  It’s something.  I just get frustrated because there’s nothing at the moment from pretty much 95% of the group.

      If you decide to stick with your decision and leave, the TS servers are still available to you, you’ve earned that.  I too enjoy the silliness and it would be a shame to lose you.

    • #7479
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      @sketchy you cant leave..

       

      we need the drunken crashing and who else will pester Damorgs about that one time at asteroid camp

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7480
      AvatarMasterandpuppet
      Participant
      Foederati
      Rank: Principes

      I’ll gracefully bow out now, before it is a bigger issue in 6 months. Absolutely keen to wing up and hang with anyone if you’ll still have me, and if it is okay to still use the TS server, I like talking shite with you all.

      I think he’s just backing out of committing to the AIE nights, not actually leaving AIE guys!

    • #7481
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      @damorgs heard my reasons for not getting back to Wangal last night. A small one interrupted my progress.
      (She was still screaming by the time I’d gone to bed.)

      And that was close to my entire game time for this week – I barely have the time to turn on the computer Saturday to Friday night at the moment.
      Not trying to excuse myself, just saying where my time is.

      I’m not going to make it on tonight, but if I’m lucky will be able to get back to wangal for Wednesday night.

    • #7482
      AvatarBaron von Schnellenstein
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of TradeAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Gents,

      Time for me to put my hand up for a mea culpa: I’ve barely been on E:D over the last three weeks; barely been on the PC for much of the past fortnight – However, I have always done a few missions for HIP20199 AIE when on.  Kudos to @FoxCarignan for updating the stats where I was absent.  Kudos to the HIPsters (what a particularly unfortunate moniker!) for keeping things ticking over, even if ‘growth’ has slowed – In addtion to Fox, thanks again @Hazara, @NZSimian, @LuminousMonkey, @Mudskipper for any and all efforts.

      Simian: Re where your last post touches on the topic of small, but noisy persons, I feel your pain. 😮 We’re still getting grief most nights here from ours


      @DaMorgs
      :
      – I think the borked BGS is really working against us here.  Had there been opportunities to incrementally reacquire stations in Wangal and thus get combat zones, I’m sure we’d see a lot more activity.  We are also getting SFA AIE missions on the station BBS at the moment, which doesn’t help.  If there is to be any throwing of teddy bears, dummies, kitchen sinks and/or grenades to be done, maybe FDev should be the first target via email and/or FD forum, re the BGS and the state of it over the last 6 months
      – As it is, even doing missions is limited as a result of FD’s last two updates since the spawn frequency has been severely muted.  Last night I could only get two AIE missions worth doing and the update frequency was looong to get even one fresh one
      – Hopefully the next dot-point release with new Mission board might garner a bit more participation across the board

      • As for my absence over the last few weeks:  I’ve had two sh!tty projects back-to-back since Oct last year, with 4 days off over Xmas.  Both involved late nights most nights.  I’ve just completed two weeks leave.  I found myself not bothered about going on the computer for the best part of that leave
      • I’d like to participate on TS, but you already know that the Lady von Schnellenstein has pretty much verboten me to use it
      • I’m likely to resume ‘normal service’ for AIE this week

      Oi! That's Baron von Schnellenstein to you, mate. No, it doesn't matter that I'm an Imperial Prince!
    • #7485
      AvatarPsylem
      Participant
      Principes
      Rank: Triarii

      I did 3 missions last night, it took 30 minutes…

      It takes me 30 minutes to find an AIE mission I’m allowed to do. Last night I actually tried taking another factions mission and finding an AIE NPC to turn it over to. Not really an efficient strategy.

      I noticed the influence drop too when I got on. That was pretty harsh, but I’m all for hating on FD for that. The mission system is bizarre compared to what I remember. With relatively low ranking in everything, I spend all my time supercruising about Wangal checking ports for missions. Normally all I get are little scrappy missions, but occasionally out of no where I get one with decent rewards that might actually gain us a blue pixel! Yay! IMO it’s broken, but that doesn’t phase me at the moment I’m just happily developing some joystick skills and laying low until I can clear my wanted status and take my Clipper out for a spin again. It’s been a long time!

    • #7486
      AvatarBaron von Schnellenstein
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of TradeAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      With relatively low ranking in everything, I spend all my time supercruising about Wangal checking ports for missions

      Psylem:  The Pilot’s Federation ranking requirement on missions is allegedly going to be waived when the next dot-point release of E:D comes out.  The ranking requirement will still be displayed as a guide to perceived difficulty.

      Of course, the problem of mission spawn frequency might still be an issue – I am Elite in trade and have attained reasonable levels in the other two ‘professions’, yet there were only 3 AIE missions on the HIP20199 board tonight (and I’m ‘eligible’ for all 3) – two of them are pointless to take up :@


      Oi! That's Baron von Schnellenstein to you, mate. No, it doesn't matter that I'm an Imperial Prince!
    • #7487
      AvatarPsylem
      Participant
      Principes
      Rank: Triarii

      It’s way too late for me to still be up, but I am and somehow I ended up reading through the bug forums. Man, this game has had a rocky history considering it’s rather mild rate of content growth (bare in mind I’ve not bought Horizons yet, maybe that’s epic and I just don’t know it yet). I’m pretty much convinced that the situation at Wangal this week is all Microsoft’s fault for spending too much time on trying to implement DRM and break into the mobile phone market when they should have just invested everything in continuing with the Freelancer series. Probably would have been better and more cost effective for everyone involved. The WinXP hackers would have been too busy to find all those exploits and Vista never would have been a thing. Just imagine for a moment…

    • #7488
      AvatarFox Carignan
      Participant
      Centurion
      Rank: Triarii

      @sketchy you cant leave.. we need the drunken crashing and who else will pester Damorgs about that one time at asteroid camp

       

      I’ll pester!  But I don’t want my tag team buddy to tap out!!  🙁

      HIP 20199 - Assistant to the Custodian

      An Epitome of Elegance... And Class

    • #7489
      AvatarFox Carignan
      Participant
      Centurion
      Rank: Triarii

      I’ve been out of Angeli space for about 2 weeks.  I still update the boards when I can remember but I’ve also been introducing a friend to the game and he is still LHS 3447 bound.  He can’t really leave until he’s got the basics down.

      I’ll be back soon, promise!

      One request; could we please have an Australian time zone displayed on the site?  Specifically, the timezone where we will plan our events.  Maybe we could use GMT and adjust it for whatever we want?

       

      HIP 20199 - Assistant to the Custodian

      An Epitome of Elegance... And Class

    • #7490
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      I might be able to fly again tonight, starting to feel a bit better, dunno if i can make it on TS though as my pc is in the dinigh room next to the kids rooms till the Fecking contractors finish our roof (yes that is still ongoing fuckers)

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7491
      AvatarSketchy
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Thanks guys 🙂 And thanks Morgs for letting me use the TS server too, I’ll be sure to get extra drunk and drag everyone into Fed space for PvP ’til 1 in the morning.

      Again.

      • #7492
        AvatarNZSimian
        Participant
        CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
        Rank: Senator

        Heh, like that’s ever happened before 😉
        On an unrelated note, I worked out what happened the other night. B rated shields. I can’t understand why, but I’ve got B rated freaking shields.

      • #7499
        AvatarSketchy
        Participant
        CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
        Rank: Centurion

        That was a terrible effort by us 🙁 Well, upgrade and we’ll try again. Better results this time I’m sure.

        Or we’ll just get drunker.

    • #7497
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Thanks for the responses guys, I know real life gets in the way.  I know I’ve had a pretty fucked up week this week, which took a nice big spike this morning 🙁

      Those who know me well know I will, on occasion vent spleens, spit dummies, throw teddies and stamp and sulk.  I don’t want people to leave, I just want something like how it used to be.  6-10 people on teamspeak, drunken shenanigans, running missions/trade etc together.

      I don’t want AIE to die, but I’m a bit concerned recently that if we’re not careful….

    • #7498
      AvatarSketchy
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Chatted with DaMorgs tonight, I’m not going anywhere.

      You’ll all have to work harder to get rid of me.

      • #7500
        AvatarNZSimian
        Participant
        CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
        Rank: Senator

        Ah well. Can’t say we didn’t try 😉

        Good man, space wouldn’t be the same without you around.


        @damorgs
        ;
        It’s ok mate, totally understand your need to vent.
        I don’t quite need a hug, but I will finish getting my FdL down to Hip 20199 and maybe cash in a mission or two.
        And all the exploration data from shadow runs 😉
        When Mrs Simian gets off the freaking PC that is.

    • #7516
      AvatarCMDR ‘Moritasgus’ O’Neill
      Moderator
      CenturionFounding Angel
      Rank: Triarii

      Sorry Gents, my attendance is still abominable, I’m not cheating on ED with another game i just haven’t been playing games much at all recently as life has very much been getting in the way.

      Will endeavour to get on a bit more soon, I’m currently away in the middle of nowhere but will likely return after finding absolutely nothing of note. At least i’ll still get a nice top up of cash.

    • #7517
      AvatarCMDR Ping
      Keymaster
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.
      Rank: Senator

      I am still not dead….

    • #7519
      AvatarHazara
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Triarii

      Middle of summer here, long sunny days with many over 30degrees and no airocn.

      Cold Moonshine helps, but makes simple missions boring very quickly.

       


      @Damorgs
      – the BGS is frustrating, and we could also be under attack from PvE groups too.

    • #7520
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      Did a few cargo missions for wangal tonight while child ND arm allowed

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7522
      AvatarHazara
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Triarii

      HIP 20199 is in BOOM!

    • #7533
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      HIP 20199 is in BOOM!

      Non Imperial factions might also be hitting boom in Wangal today. 😛

    • #7536
      AvatarFox Carignan
      Participant
      Centurion
      Rank: Triarii

      Online last night doing a couple of 20199 missions but got called away late night…

      I hope to see some more of you on tonight!

      HIP 20199 - Assistant to the Custodian

      An Epitome of Elegance... And Class

    • #7538
      AvatarMasterandpuppet
      Participant
      Foederati
      Rank: Principes

      Handed in some bounties, did a couple of missions and a bit of Imperial Slave trading with Nelder last night.

      Good to see that Wangal influence has recovered a bit up to 40% when I checked and we are in boom still.

    • #7543
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Well, this is just ridiculous.  I spent all day doing missions and trade yesterday and we have DROPPED 3% in Wangal!!!  Bureau of Wangal have increased 5%!!!

    • #7546
      AvatarMasterandpuppet
      Participant
      Foederati
      Rank: Principes

      Well that’s frustrating. Just how far can we get with the state of the BGS?

    • #7547
      AvatarFox Carignan
      Participant
      Centurion
      Rank: Triarii

      Unfortunately the BGS can still be affected from solo or private group…  This means we may be getting hit from CMDRs who are hiding in an unreachable plane.

      HIP 20199 - Assistant to the Custodian

      An Epitome of Elegance... And Class

    • #7548
      AvatarBaron von Schnellenstein
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of TradeAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Could also be due to _what_ trade we are doing, the type of missions we take and their influence plus BGS impacts

      E.g: I took an assassination mission Fri night, which was a sneakily designed rampage:
      – Mission from board looks like ‘safe’ standard assassination.
      – On mission completion screen back at Fabricius, it immediately spawns a “part II”, which is go and kill <n> ships in another system.  The <n> targets were Authority ships in another Imperial system

      – Completion of that secondary mission caused negative influence for AIE on the completion screen

      Also:  @DaMorgs:  whats your total tally of goods dropped at Elson Terminal Fri night and last night (e.g. how much friday and how much saturday)?
      – In HIP 20199, AIE dropped about 0.6% from Fri Night ‘tick’ to last night’s ‘tick’ and Silver Fortune went up about 1%

      • As for Wangal, I wonder if the parallel activity that was running in Wangal yesterday arvo contributed to the influence drop – could test that by re-doing missions/trade in Wangal per yesterday that you were doing, but _not_ the parallel activity – if influence _still_ drops, then I suspect other forces are at work

      Oi! That's Baron von Schnellenstein to you, mate. No, it doesn't matter that I'm an Imperial Prince!
    • #7549
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      I’ll tell them to stop and see what happens.  I’m on night shift this week so won’t be on much.

    • #7553
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      I know I, for one, can’t wait for the new update and I hope to hell it fixes this.  We’ve gone up 1.5%

      To my knowledge nobody has done anything!!!

      • #7554
        AvatarNZSimian
        Participant
        CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
        Rank: Senator

        ‘Naturally’ creeping back to the AIE starting %?
        Or is there a huge lag in reported effect of missions?

    • #7555
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Short answer, no idea.  HIP took a hit too.  It’s all very weird.

    • #7559
      AvatarHazara
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Triarii

      Yes, the rumours were true – I was spotted in a trade Asp, dropped 64 tonnes of rares at HIP 20199 for a profit of…. 1.4 mill on saturday.

       

      Trading sucks.

    • #7560
      AvatarBaron von Schnellenstein
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of TradeAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Trading sucks.

      … Even more since the most recent update where FD have been fiddling the books.  Stuff that should be 1600Cr/T credit one way appears to have been ‘normalised’ back to 1000 Cr/T – That’s really going to hurt newer players whose only option is to trade to upgrade.

      Doesn’t really help AIE’s cause where we’re trying to modify influence via trade – being stiffed on profits to the tune of ~30% must have a corresponding effect on influence (as well as our ‘poor old’ hip-pockets)

      On the other hand, by nerfing trade so much, FD are:

      • Forcing players to look for and take on well paying missions from the BBS
      • Making it more attractive to hunt bounties (i.e. shoot things – you _must_ like _that_ idea, Haz!!)
      • Probably making mining the most consistent ‘big earner’ (supposing you’ve found somewhere profitable to mine)


      @XSannz
      ’s long-range smuggling seems to be the best way to make fast(er) bucks at this stage.


      Oi! That's Baron von Schnellenstein to you, mate. No, it doesn't matter that I'm an Imperial Prince!
    • #7577
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      Currently LR smuggling and shadow missions are the best money makers.

       

      2 months 1.1 bill made and elite as a trader from broker status, i wont be grindign that again.

       

      the other thing where i was makign 2-3 mill for a few hours worth is the base assault missions in hip 10176 (i think – not at home at the moment)  taking the performanc review and base assault missions and stacking 5-10 of them and doing the one base assault netted almost 800k to 1 mill per good run and takes 15 minutes tops.

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7581
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Trading sucks.

      I’m just going to leave this here; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😉

    • #7582
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      I have a photo of hazara in an ASP…

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7584
      AvatarXsannz
      Moderator
      CenturionAngel of DiscoveryAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement MissionAngel of Trade
      Rank: Centurion

      I will be on tomorrow night and on teamspeak

      Assistant Angeli Imperial Custodian (Wangal)

      Qui Desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. | Quis custodiet Ipsos custodes.
      Nascentes morimur. | Quando Omni Flunkis Moritati

    • #7585
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Was in game this evening, took the only mission of note for AIE from HIP20199, a ‘staying power’ mission. Spent a couple of hours flying around everywhere in the target system (yugerra, FML), without finding the target.
      Got mad.
      Ended up ending some traders, a wedding barge, a couple of pirates, a wing of Sirius security, a fed agent, and several system defence force ships.
      Ram killed a couple of Cobras as well, not sure where they belonged to.
      Turned an eagle inside out by accident.
      Shot up a rescue ship.
      And may have drunk a few ciders, but they were incidental.
      I’m adding “staying power” to the list of bugged missions that I’m avoiding.
      And I’m adding yugerra to the list of systems that I might avoid for a while.
      May have had some assistance in this mischief with @sketchy.
      1000MJ shields are cool… If you get the power management right 🙂

    • #7587
      AvatarPsylem
      Participant
      Principes
      Rank: Triarii

      On the other hand, by nerfing trade so much, FD are:

      • Forcing players to look for and take on well paying missions from the BBS

      That’s going to frustrate a lot of people since they’re so buggy. Missions certainly aren’t making me rich but any excuse to fly around and look for stuff to kill is fun.

      BTW, I’m now getting an average of ~1200Cr/ton each way in my trader build Clipper (note the  rather roomy boot and virtually no shields). I take it that’s not too shabby these days? Now making well over 2M/hour when I can be bothered grinding. Thanks for the trade route tips!

      Mining is still on my list of things I really need to try one day.

    • #7588
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      @Psylem should I not mention that my Cutter carries 702 tonnes and makes 1.3m credits in one run?  Should I also not mention that that single run takes about 5 minutes?

      No?  OK, I won’t. 😛

    • #7632
      AvatarPsylem
      Participant
      Principes
      Rank: Triarii

      I got a steady stream of quality missions at either Nelder or the two nearest outposts tonight. Still didn’t make a dent, who are these BoW people and how do they keep gaining such remarkable levels of influence??

    • #7633
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      Got me beat, we’ve tried going t election wit them, we keep winning but we never get any more of starports.  Extremely frustrating.

    • #7659
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      You guys want me to go bite someone?
      Quite happy to suggest to the Bureau that they need to rethink their strategy.
      With lasers.
      Or doing an @hazara with their missions…

      We’re also hitting issues in HIP 20199 atm, Elson dock (silver fortunes) is in boom, according to the local tabloids.

    • #7660
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      We’ve tried that, it doesn’t work.  I’m thinking we let Wangal be whatever it settles at and push hard on HIP 20199.  Trade/missions and just swamp it with AIE.

    • #7663
      AvatarFox Carignan
      Participant
      Centurion
      Rank: Triarii

      Hmm.  Well, the system trophy is going to be interesting after this!

      HIP 20199 - Assistant to the Custodian

      An Epitome of Elegance... And Class

    • #7664
      AvatarNZSimian
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of DeathAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      I dropped several hundred K worth of exploration data and ran a couple of 150K kill missions last night out of Fabricus.

      Annoyingly, my rating with the dirty Feds actually increased after handing in the exploration data (!!), so if I’m not careful I’ll be close to getting my first ever Fed ranking mission.

      Must go shoot something in Rhea.

    • #7666
      AvatarDAMORGS
      Moderator
      SenatorFounding AngelAngel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Senator

      I too dropped a couple of million in exploration data at Wangal.  I’ll head over tonight.

    • #7667
      AvatarBaron von Schnellenstein
      Participant
      CenturionAngel of TradeAngel of Mercy – Participating in a AI relief mission.Angel of Justice – Participating in an AI Enforcement Mission
      Rank: Centurion

      Given what we are seeing in HIP20199, I’d suggest stop selling slaves to Elson Terminal – It evidently didn’t send them broke, as hoped and as indicated on FD forums (re: balance of trade) – It could be someone else is in there trading goods outbound from Elson terminal

      So, just bounty/missions for AIE (and/or taking and immediately abandoning missions for other system factions)

      I’ll try trading goods into Fabricius seeing that same one-way trade appeared to help, rather than hinder Silver Fortune

       


      Oi! That's Baron von Schnellenstein to you, mate. No, it doesn't matter that I'm an Imperial Prince!
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